what the hell is the problem with the famous “men of old” in the bible?
for some strange reason those old geezers (and some not so old) could not recognize who they were screwing?.
my wife was listening to this week’s bible reading about jacob, laban, and the sisters leah, and rachael.
The story is so ludicrous that it could indicate that it is a borrowing of an older tale probably from a different culture. The Bible is full of unfathomable drivel for this very reason.
It amazes me how they used the vile story of Lot at the conventions a couple of years ago, surely it would have had the effect of waking up any thinking Witnesses?
study watchtower, june 2020, box on page 22 - "note the comment made by an inactive one in spain: “i want to be reactivated, but it is very difficult.
but it is not easy.
i have to change my lifestyle and cut ties with some worldly friends.".
When the org is in the doldrums they look around to see where they can make up for some the numbers of those they have lost. One possible way is to revive the POMIs who still believe the JW story but who don't attend meetings.
Good old Silvio from Ecuador, a fantastic experience for the blinkered true believers. In real life it is quite probable that he is an unstable, uneducated hopeless individual who needs religion just to stagger through the day. Probably he'll leave the org again in a few months -- but praying when the elders call, sounds just fabulous on the pages of the Watchtower. However as a weak JW, he was already on the elder's radar, so it's not too surprising.
If the organisation is so favoured by God and this is an example angelic direction, then how come there were paedophiles and homosexuals in the governing body? etc etc?
went to a meeting after a long absence.
after being away for so long, its still the same old thing.
(this was a couple of weeks ago before the zoom thing).
"Jehovah" is the JW mantra.
To say something as frequently as possible gives focus to it. Endless repetition forms a deep psychological union with something whether real or imagined. In the case of JWs, this name Jehovah also involves the concept of the organisation which is inseparably associated with it. Why do the governing body stress "Keep close to Jehovah's organisation" so repeatedly? Well if there was a god would he care which group you associated with? Of course not -- by churning out the name Jehovah endlessly it is simply brand loyalty the GB are pressing with the hope of seeing the income needed to perpetuate their own crummy sect in a crowded religious market.
The objective of the governing body is to caress the minds of its victims followers with the mantra that they are "Jehovah's people" and as such they are part of his very own private and exclusive organisation.
Everything to do with Jehovah is total fiction with no method of proving it to be true . . . but a balm to the barmy nevertheless.
"Jehovah" is a talisman.
A talisman is a good luck charm, keep saying the word and you will get lucky at Armageddon. Pity Armageddon is also a fiction but carry the Jehovah talisman in your head just in case, it is ideal for comforting the superstitious.
hi, just curious to know if anyone knows of witnesses not applauding the nhs on thursday night.
all i know is for some reason my mum and aunt only went out to listen but didn’t take part in the applause.
not sure if they were just being strange or if there has been instruction not to take part.
JWs would feel guilt combined with a fear of breaking an unwritten taboo applauding anyone or anything other than the governing body.
just received a text yesterday...lovebombing to return with so called proof of the gt starting...scaremongering at its peak!.
"hey.
missing you at the meetings.
Testeverything: how about testing the Bible? Find out how Yahweh was the son of El in the Canaanite pantheon, why bother with Yahweh when his brothers would do for you just as well? And by the way science indicates that the world will be ending for human life in about 300 million years give or take a millennium or two. Prophecy is irrational since there is no power to enforce anything in the future as Bible prophecy has shown. Prophecy is strictly for idiots -- but thank you for your good intentions.
"we must obey god rather than men" act.5:29 has sure been discarded now and the gb are obeying the united nations world health organization and shutting down all of their "witnessing" operations ,very effectively i might add.. instead of boldly proclaiming the kingdom message as they used to blow there own trumpet about obeying god rather than men they are now more in fear of what the superior authorities will do to them if they don`t obey them.. this is something nobody banked on ever happening least of all the governing body of jehovah`s witnesses that the preaching work would come to a standstill .. of course they will put a spin on it ,that there protecting the health and well being of their members and the public.. but the fact remains they are not trusting in jehovah to protect their members nor are they trusting in jehovah to keep the "worldwide preaching work" going.. what do you think ?.
I think the GB noted that in South Korea earlier this month, that the authorities went after the leaders of the religious group who continued to meet during the corona crisis over there. The leaders were held accountable, not the regular worshippers. Amongst other things, they were accused of murder for allowing the virus to spread.
unleavened bread has no yeast in it.
and yeast is a symbol of sin, right?
not good for symbolising whatever it's supposed to symbolise, obviously.. so my beloved missus, who i believe is possibly the best cook in the world (although i do have a soft spot for chef nigella lawson with those magnificent knockers and all) is an absolute ace at baking sourdough bread.. and yes, sourdough bread - especially when toasted - is absolutely yummy.
I do bake my own bread and have made the starter for sourdough, it lives a long time. In my village we give names to our sourdough culture, mine was Elsie but I cruelly let her die a year ago.
There is yeast in sourdough, it comes right out of the air -- it is bigger than bacteria and smaller than plants in a biological kingdom of its own. With flour It creates alcohol and lactic acid which mixing with other harmless bacteria it imparts the particular taste to the bread and CO2 bubbles to cause it to rise.
for myself, there is an embarrassingly long list of things that really should really have woken me up, fully.
it was a long process for me, as a mind controlled born in, things i simply did not agree with, or knew were downright wrong, that built and built, and, eventually i woke up, after 58 bloody years in !.
but just mainly for fun, what should have woken you up ?.
A very good question Phizzy.
When I was young, an old lady from some creepy religious cult used to come knocking at my door. I noticed that she must have always powdered her face with her specs on. I never listened to her message, in fact I recoiled at the woman's visits.
A bit later I had unwittingly become "a study" at my JW friend's house as I liked to argue and find out about things. Then I went to the meeting and who was present; the little old cult lady.
I should have woken up there and then before I got any deeper.
As it happens the old lady was quite a sweet, well meaning but truly obsessive pioneer. A few years later she was put permanently into a home for the mentally ill.
we all know that things are all going to be way different when we get through this milestone.. like hurricane katrina, people survived this but new orleans even 16 years later is way different.
our economy is like a shark that must keep moving through the water.
stop it and it will die.. the witnesses like many people in the world, have little to no savings.
All JWs have been happily immunised against common sense. Therefore just as the time right after one of the many failed prophecies, so it will be at the end of the corona virus pandemic. In fact they will declare it was due to Jarhoover's loving patience that he spared mankind so more people can hear the Watchtower message.....vomit.
I guess it's not just the GB who are nuts it's the deluded sheep also for believing them for so long.
over at jw talk they're saying because they're having to hold the upcoming memorial at home, they dont need to actually have the emblems.
apparently, listening to or watching the talk is the thing that counts.. "do this in rememberence of me" apparently means watching tony morris on your phone give a talk.. this begs the question... "what's the point?
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Just a reminder, it was Mithra who was attributed with the words, Whoever does not eat of my body and drink my blood the same will not be with me in paradise. This was centuries before Jesus was ever thought of. The memorial was borrowed lock, stock and barrel from pagans.
